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We have just disembarked from 19 nights on the Aurora, lovely cruise good food, and service, good cabin and cabin steward, other passenger, all friendly and chatty, the one downside was the amount of illness, both crew and passengers went down like flys with chest infection, some people even hospitalalised the air con does not help, however we did have a nice time

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59 minutes ago, Jenjen said:

Hi Sinbad, how strange your wife having a chest infection, I put the problem on Aurora down to the refit of carpets, getting fibre in the air con, did you have many others on your ship with this respiratory problems?

hope your wife is soon better

Thanks after a visit to the doctors she is now on antibiotics. I dont think it is down to new carpets there have for many years people complaining of coughs,colds and chest infections after a recent cruise and a lot mention Arcadia cough but dont think there is one ship any worse than others. Air conditioning is the problem because when you have 2000+ people in a confined space any viral problems can soon spread.

 

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We were on Aurora's 2nd cruise after the refit and I don't remember any significant illnesses on board that cruise.  The new carpets did leave fluff piles around the cabin, but the stewards vacuumed every day, and we were not affected in any way. Generally high incidences of illnesses on board are due to them being brought on board by the passengers and then  generously passed around.  Also we have never suffered from the A/C coughs that get reported on forums, maybe we are just lucky.

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On 6/14/2019 at 10:08 PM, sinbad10 said:

Thanks after a visit to the doctors she is now on antibiotics. I dont think it is down to new carpets there have for many years people complaining of coughs,colds and chest infections after a recent cruise and a lot mention Arcadia cough but dont think there is one ship any worse than others. Air conditioning is the problem because when you have 2000+ people in a confined space any viral problems can soon spread.

 

We sailed on Arcadia twice and twice I came off with a chest infection ,others in the party were fine .

The Aircon on Arcadia seemed to work but the difference from hot to cold was noticeable ,in the public areas,you  were starting to sweat before it came on and it went very cold at times.

The air con on most ships dries my sinuses out ,but I do feel it does spread infections around the ship quite quickly...Davybe

 

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Air-conditioning anywhere is always a contentious issue whether on land or sea. Our early cruising was mainly on Princess and we always found that their entertainment venues were far too cold and we needed a jacket or stoll to be comfortable, now we no longer fly so P&O out of Southampton is our line of choice and most of their ships' aircon temps seem to suit us just fine.  

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Hello all.  My first post.  I agree with all the above posts relating to infectious diseases.  Air conditioning is not mandatory for germs to spread, any captive audience in a confined space will suffice.  I was an Engineering Officer with P&O-Orient Line between 1956 and 1963 and remember when a complete deck's accommodation was commandeered as an isolation area, packed with patients with Asian Flu when we docked at Tilbury.  I forget the year but the ship was either the Orcades or Oronsay and neither ship was air conditioned at the time.  Having said all this I just hope that the crew and passengers on Oriana's final cruise are all healthy as my wife  and I are booked on it celebrating our diamond wedding.  Looking forward to cruise for three reasons. It will be our fourth run on our favourite ship Oriana.  Secondly it will be our second anniversary at sea, (our golden was on Artemis in St Petersburg) and thirdly I was on the first Oriana on its maiden voyage in December 1960 and now sailing on its final one.  End of an era perhaps?

 

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7 hours ago, lolandjen said:

Hello all.  My first post.  I agree with all the above posts relating to infectious diseases.  Air conditioning is not mandatory for germs to spread, any captive audience in a confined space will suffice.  I was an Engineering Officer with P&O-Orient Line between 1956 and 1963 and remember when a complete deck's accommodation was commandeered as an isolation area, packed with patients with Asian Flu when we docked at Tilbury.  I forget the year but the ship was either the Orcades or Oronsay and neither ship was air conditioned at the time.  Having said all this I just hope that the crew and passengers on Oriana's final cruise are all healthy as my wife  and I are booked on it celebrating our diamond wedding.  Looking forward to cruise for three reasons. It will be our fourth run on our favourite ship Oriana.  Secondly it will be our second anniversary at sea, (our golden was on Artemis in St Petersburg) and thirdly I was on the first Oriana on its maiden voyage in December 1960 and now sailing on its final one.  End of an era perhaps?

 

Welcome to the forum lolandjen. Oriana is our favourite ship too & we're on her in July.

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12 hours ago, Captain Kidd II said:

The problem is not usually the air conditioning but people embarking with coughs, etc, who then pass on there complaint to many more by using the AC to pass round germs and spreading germs via handrails, lift buttons and many other ways. 

A good health hygiene routine helps reduce the risks.

 I agree to some extent, however the filtration systems in air conditioning units makes very unlikely germs would pass through.

Person to person contact and poor personal hygiene is the most likely culprit for the spread of germs etc.

HLM.

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On 6/21/2019 at 6:44 AM, HLM said:

 I agree to some extent, however the filtration systems in air conditioning units makes very unlikely germs would pass through.

Person to person contact and poor personal hygiene is the most likely culprit for the spread of germs etc.

HLM.

https://www.livestrong.com/article/160205-negative-health-effects-of-central-air-conditioning/

Not according to this article??....Davybe

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17 hours ago, Davybe said:

I take little notice of articles such as that Davybe, for every negative one there's a positive one, most of which have no factual research behind them.

I look at it like this, every NHS hospital I've ever been in has air conditioning, therefore if air con units were responsible for the spread of disease would they be there, I think not.

What I don't dispute is that they can aggravate existing conditions such as asthma etc, but that's totally different to spreading disease.

Like I said previously person to person and poor hygiene is the most likely cause of spreading germs.

HLM.

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2 hours ago, HLM said:

I take little notice of articles such as that Davybe, for every negative one there's a positive one, most of which have no factual research behind them.

I look at it like this, every NHS hospital I've ever been in has air conditioning, therefore if air con units were responsible for the spread of disease would they be there, I think not.

What I don't dispute is that they can aggravate existing conditions such as asthma etc, but that's totally different to spreading disease.

Like I said previously person to person and poor hygiene is the most likely cause of spreading germs.

HLM.

We were with an engineer on Eclipse when our friend asked him about the Air con ,we had seen one unit being cleaned out ,(The amount of dust in the filter was unbelievable ) and he said ,the filters only filtered out dust and dirt.....Davybe

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19 hours ago, Davybe said:

We were with an engineer on Eclipse when our friend asked him about the Air con ,we had seen one unit being cleaned out ,(The amount of dust in the filter was unbelievable ) and he said ,the filters only filtered out dust and dirt.....Davybe

I beg to differ with that engineer Davybe and I'd also be very concerned that if as you describe the amount of dust and dirt was "unbelievable".

To enable the filters to work correctly they should be regularly cleaned and maintained if not then of course they'll spread germs such as legionnaires disease.

HLM.

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On 6/24/2019 at 5:12 AM, HLM said:

I beg to differ with that engineer Davybe and I'd also be very concerned that if as you describe the amount of dust and dirt was "unbelievable".

To enable the filters to work correctly they should be regularly cleaned and maintained if not then of course they'll spread germs such as legionnaires disease.

HLM.

Surprising enough they only recommend cleaning the filters ever 12 months or twice a year, and to be honest I have only ever seen the air con being cleaned once over many cruises?

The one I retired to was in a Corridor not a cabin....Davybe

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6 hours ago, Davybe said:

Surprising enough they only recommend cleaning the filters ever 12 months or twice a year, and to be honest I have only ever seen the air con being cleaned once over many cruises?

The one I retired to was in a Corridor not a cabin....Davybe

Once every 12 months would be the bare minimum, in a highly populated 24hr environment such a cruise ship it's recommended that it should be at least 4 times a year.

Who enforces it is another matter??

HLM.

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15 hours ago, Captain Kidd II said:

There will be a maintenance schedule for cleaning air conditioning which must be adhered to. The usual cause of most illnesses is the passengers boarding and not declaring they have a problem.

My thoughts entirely.

HLM.

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